Friday, May 04, 2007

just add gravy...




...the Biscuit has arrived: 5'6" x 20" x 2 3/4"

Could be the perfect board for these parts if you suffer from scoptologphobia: fear of your friends seeing you on a longboard.

Description reads "...for those OPEN to drawing new lines with the shortest rail possible..." however at the bottom of the label The Channel Islands Surfing Attorney General suggests ONLY riding this board in conditions under head-high! It's like giving a kid a book and telling him, "Read everything except the last three chapters." No exceptions and under penalty of being sent to China to work hard labor in the Anacrapa factory!

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

how is carrying merrick boards made in china factories okay but carrying popouts so evil...?
trying to figure that one out...

Anonymous said...

Why, because pop outs are the worst thing to happen to surfing, everything aside do you want some telling what size board and dimensions to ride, come on curios I know you can even see that, right?

Anonymous said...

sorry eveyone my keyboard is retarded like me.

I.R. said...

Quite the conundrum "curious"... Let me see...Santa Barbara is in California, not in China... I know people who shape for Channel Islands in California... each Channel Island board has a laminate stating which glass shop it was finished at...and they are all in California...

As for why popouts are so evil, please sit back and relax as the surf industry implodes in t-minus 5 years. Thank you Randy French for your "technological breakthrough" which will result in your company taking the hardest fall of all...I look forward to tasting your tears.

How's that?

curious2 said...

http://www.cisurfboards.com/tuflites06.asp

Not that I want to engage in this discussion but this link from channel islands website show tuflite aka surftech boards. I know they hand shape but does channel island also make surftechs or should I say, did they sell part line to surftech? I need a straight answer on this one

Anonymous said...

Scoptologphobia... nice word ian!

Anonymous said...

between curious2's link and the following surfing mag blog quote: "The biggest name in the industry, Al Merrick has chosen not to train young shapers and instead has begun outsourcing his designs to Thailand, where the boards are shaped by factory workers who have never surfed."
I still remain curious as to why a shop with antipop-out fever (which is understandable, maybe even admirable) feels okay about carrying merrick's boards if the thailand/merrick consorting is true...truly a conundrum

Anonymous said...

Wow, Do you honestly think your real surfboard not a surftech is being shaped in another country, have you ever heard of a shaping machine. Living in San Diego I know many people whos job it is to operate these machines for companies like Channel Island. So don't try and tell me that you think Al is training long duck dong in some other county and then shipping a real/fragil surfboard around the world just for you. We all know that surfboard companies don't make much money so why in the world would the pay to ship a real surfboard all the way from Thailand?

J.P. said...

The sprawling Cobra factory in Thailand makes Surftechs and Anacapa's and ships them over on container ships. Buyer beware.

I.R. said...

curious-admit it, you had to look up conundrum in the dictionary. That means you have to wait 2 weeks before you can use it.

I'm just breaking your balls, but seriously, here's one way to look at it. By continuing to carry Channel Islands we are actually preventing the sales of CI Surftech models in the area because we have an exclusivity contract with them. The "largest authorized Surftech dealer in South Carolina" down the street can get you any Surftech model in the catalog you want, except the Channel Islands. Niiiice!

Anacrapa on the other hand is a totally seperate company and has no relation to Channel Islands.

Touching on what Jp said: caveat emptor. Thanks to Matt Biolos of ...Lost, all surfboards coming over in containers must have country of origin stickers on them(I'm sure many are still slipping through the cracks)I know of a certain shop around here telling customers there boards were "Made in Australia" and then when they brought them in to us for repairs, we had to refuse them because they were popouts.

All in all, we don't have "anti-popout fever" it runs much deeper than that. Some will say that its gonna come back to bite us in the ass, but it won't. If it comes down to popouts being the industry standard, as much as I hate to say it, Tim would close the doors. It's that simple. For now ee are taking it one step at a time and trying to preserve something that is truly special to many of us. Peace.

curious2 said...

I understand and respect Tim's position, but ask him this...Why are some brands band from Mckevlins for allowing surftech to make certain models while Channel Islands and Lost appear exempt. Harbour is a perfect example. You had exclusivity on them and could have used the same argument in keeping the their boards, instead you chose to drop them. Do you hold longboard manufacturers' to a different standard? Again, I am not trying to create a dispute, I just do not understand your methodology used to determine which lines you will sell and which ones you will not. It does not appear that Harbour is doing anything different than Channel Islands(please correct me if I am wrong). And for the record, I am a big supporter of Tim and McKevlins, I do not own and have never riden a pop out and never will. Tim can sell what ever surf boards he wants for what ever reason he wants. You guys run a great operation and I hope you stay in business a long long time.

I.R. said...

I thought the horse was dead, but I'll continue to beat and flog it incessantly...

There is no perfect formula to our madness, but maybe this clears some of it up...

Harbour has no control over the distribution of their Surftech models, Channel Islands does. Only a Channel Islands dealer can purvey their Surftech models. Harbour and other brands we have dropped have no control over their distribution and therefore they wouldn't be exclusive to us.

...Lost has some boards made by Aviso (American Made) in carbon fiber. I see a slight difference between that and a Surftech: These are not mass produced, they are made by people who surf.

Of course there are gray areas, and we're not trying to stagnate surfboard evolution (if you believe it to be that) but I'm doing my best. Peace.

Anonymous said...

didn't have to look up conondrum smart guy but will have to look up caveat emptor. wow, surfers are smarter than you'd think. keep on keeping on.

I.R. said...

Define "surfer"

Anonymous said...

let me go look that up