...turns out the markets going to be flooded with thousands of these things in 2008. Look here for more info and other rantings from a businessman all about the "sport" of surfing. Do all "ricky schroders" bobble during turns on perfect rights?
Saturday, October 06, 2007
more "ricky schroder" action...
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Our LS softboard isn't an ultra high performance board. It is simply the best in its class for kids and beginners. It is like the padded dash of you car not hard as a brick.
Our Epoxy hardboards stand with the best in the market. They are light and hard as a brick, like your's.
A kid can hit the water on LS softboard for as little as $139.
CI and the rest aren't just selling out. They are adjusting to global reality. This is one world and the USA is moving from an old industrial society toward the modern information age and into a stronger brighter future. Less pollution and lower impact on the environment will result. Others will follow CI or die off, as it should be.
Companies like LS and NSP, using recycled and recyclable material like EPS have caused that poison PolyUrethane foam shops have been selling for decades to be sent to the dustbin of history. All the better for humans and the environment.
Glen Hening who founded SurfRider Foundation and Groundswell Society had nothing to gain by researching and claiming surfing was invented in Peru. He could have said Polynesia but there is no evidence there. We started our company before he claimed it and stand by that theory now since it makes sense and the evidence, and nice waves, are in Peru.
All Archaeology is "theory" since we weren't there. Every theory has detractors, they make a name and money doing it.
I think you both need to take a breath and let it rest...
Hi Old Kook Dude...I would but they put my boards on their website and hammered our kids/beginner board, publicly. Not once, but twice before I jumped in.
There is certainly a place for High Priced boards as well as entry level. There's entry level in almost everything, cars, stereo, homes, computers, you name it.
Why should a kid or familiy on budget be poked fun at and degraded for seeking a board to meet their pocketbook?
surfmac2004.... read what I wrote above....
And for the last time...
THE POINT WAS ABOUT THE RAZOR SHARP FINS!!!
Surfmac2004 might be the most annoying person I have ever read, please when those things arrive by the thousands in the port of charleston - drop the container on that guys head! I've been surfing my whole life and I would never ride or buy a ls for anyone. Those things are so ridiculous - buy your kid a used "real surfboard" for that price.
I accept being annoying, ignorant and whatever other names y'all have called me and our boards, but, I'm proud our boards are from Peru, "Where Surfing Was Invented".
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, y'all claim NO POPOUTS when you have them in your store, in your rental fleet, made by BZ. Even worse, BZ is a Chinese owned company making POPOUT softboards with "no redeeming qualities" in China.
You also have several other Brands of POPOUTS in your store's rental fleet.
So,...making money off POPOUTs aren't we both?
Y'all are 100% Spinmeisters not 100% Real. NO POPOUTS should read "except when we feel like it and can make some money on it". Go ahead, tell us how having them doesn't count.
100% is like "never" you shouldn't say it. It is a VERY "tough row to hoe".
Here's something really annoying...have y'all done any lead poison testing lately?
BTW we've been selling thousands every year since 2000. We hope to double our numbers with Peru hand shaped Epoxy. See them at "Real" Surf Shops around the Globe.
For more PERU info see the article by Marc Sanders of Surfing Mag.: http://www.groundswellsociety.org/publications/FourthEdition/pdf/23%20-%20Peru%202002.pdf
I read the article and pulled this quote: "Of course, there’s more research to be done - nothing’s been proven. But every year more and more sites are being discovered that give us information about how
people’s lives were informed by waves thousands of years ago.”
That Hawai’i is the birthplace of modern surfing is fairly inarguable; and whether or not Peru saw the world’s first full-time wave-riders is still unproven."
This still has nothing to do with the original post I put up regarding the razor sharp fins on the liquid shredder. I wasn't attacking the liquid shredder, merely pointing out the irony, and never called them popouts, but you did: "So,...making money off POPOUTs aren't we both?"
You are obviously an extremly defensive person. Now you have attacked the shop that I work for and stand behind 100%, so I'll explain to you a little about how it works on this slippery slope that the surf industry has become.
Everything in the surf industry starts out in the USA or Australia and so forth before the corporate stockholders decide to move production to China or whatever to increase profit margins. BZ wasn't always made in China, and the 2 we have left in our rental fleet are over 5 years old. The BICs are made in France and the HIFLYs in Germany. While we continue to phase out all of these popout rentals we have found a newer brand of hand-shaped foam rental boards that are great for beginners, and get this, they can be surfed on real waves too. INT surfboards will eventually be the only rental board used by the shop, and throwing away the molded BICs and stuff now would only add to the landfill pile.
What is the life expectancy of a Liquid Shredder?
What else have you imported besides Liquid Shredders Scott?
Keep 'em coming in by the thousands because there's going to be an awful lot of wavepools in the midwest to fill up. And I'm sure your one day your descendents will be saying "Wisconsin, where surfing was invented."
France..Germany?? When did they enter the United States? And, BIC, the Original FRENCH, Ballpoint, POP OUT....You've admitted more than I knew.
Oh yeah, I'm defensive when you put our Brand and USPTO Registered Trademark(s) on your website without permission and abuse it.
But, your PHONEY position as "hero of the local shapers" is exposed.
As you've admitted, you have been and are using POP OUTs...NOT made In the USA...NOT protecting the Local USA Shapers as you've claimed, for what, 5 years or so?
Now you claim you're going to correct it since the facts have come out...after how many years of NO POPOUT, no import, spin? I smell "pants on fire". I hear a lot of CYA.
Everything about me is as public as front page news, so innuendo has never really concerned me, Ian.
In the future leave other company's USPTO Registered Trademarks off your company website. Especially, ours, because we will assert our legal rights if ya'll continue.
You really should take that 100% and NO POPOUT garbage off, since it ain't true.
Your buddies at INT got an "exclusive" Wave Machine contract a few days ago. That's a fact. Ya'll make a nice pair. That's not actually business we were seeking.
Our boards are tested and developed on real waves, in Peru.
Scott McClain
One more point...doesn't Louie (INT) have a factory in Brazil? Pretty sure he opened on in 2006.
You are completely missing the point over and over and over again. I once again made the point about the broken razor sharp fins on the Liquid Shredders and left it at that until you kept poking and prodding.
Our sign on the building doesn't say "We only sell or use stuff made in the USA." Not making that claim. We sell boards made in the states, some with blanks from Brazil, and boards made in Australia and so on. If you would just listen or actually read the story behind our no pop-outs philosophy instead of just wanting argue about everything. I feel like I've wasted too much of my time on you already.
Keep back pedaling...soon you'll be buying Chinese epoxy POP OUTS and saying that's OK too. Never say Never, dude.
I read your Spin.. "Most importantly" all this is directly from your website...
"Disrespects The Shaper
Finally, and most importantly, every time one of these molded, Pop-Out boards from Slovakia or Thailand is sold, a legitimate real surfboard shaper has lost a sale." (sounds pretty racist)
PLUS..
"It's also the only surf shop on Folly Beach committed to keeping the surf industry in the hands of the surfers, not the greedy corpo slugs. (like CI) We perservered through the first run of pop-outs back in the day, and we'll continue fighting the good fight. Like Gerry Lopez said: " There are alot of changes going on in the industry… …molded boards made overseas… …back then we called them pop outs. The only guys riding them were paid to. The other guys riding them we called kooks"
And, you admit to the continued use of them for a number of years since you started this NO POPOUT Spin program. How does it take 5 years to phase out what you claim to not support?
So.. rename your store "Kooks and POP OUTS R Us"
Also, INT is about 40% more dollars than our boards and their rails and shapes ain't really that good.
It started with the "Matt Damon" attack. I don't see you after anyone directly, by Brand Name, on your site but Liquid Shredder within 3 days of each other.
You didn't mentioned "broken fins" in the second attack. The photo was small, unclear and not expalined. It was Spin and misleading as heck, just like NO POPOUTS and 100%.
Keep spinning and back pedaling...
The worms are out of the can.
Scott McClain
Dude, don't call me dude. Second, the first picture has the "ricky schroder" board fins circle in RED. How obvious can it be?
You took it as an attack, it was merely irony. Guess money can pay for education but it doesn't mean you'll learn anything.
Scott don't surf - he just importants alot of bad things into our country!
Ok, surfmac, or scott, or whatever your name is...please stop posting your incoherent rages on this blog. Ian is right, you keep missing the point, and will likely continue to do so. You've made your point, and about 10 others as well, just give up
Old Kook, I wish you would have left your last comment up. It's the truth on both sides. The blog is here for info and a few laughs, unfortunately some at the expense of those who can't take a joke, or get the point. That topic was really taxing on me and was beginning to make me want to stop the blog altogether because it was becoming more of a daunting task than it was fun.
Hoping to move on now...
Ian,
I meant what I wtore, but after reading it, I felt as if I just got sucked into it and was being just as long winded as those I accused of being juvenile.
You have my permission to put it back up if you so choose.
Have a good week.
Cheers. I know how easy it is to get sucked in. Waves today and 2moro and maybe even the weekend boys and girls. That's for real.
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